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Question: Weaker erections - damaged Corpus Spongiosum


 max018 - Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:04 pm

I have been doing penis exercises since October 2007. I got my exercises from "www.penishealth.com". Since I started the exercises, I never had erections so hard ever in my life. My purpose for starting was solely to improve myself for my partner, I wanted to straighten my penis, because I have a natural downward curve and I also wanted to add some size to my penis. I got great erections, I gained 1-1.4cm in length, 0.5cm in girth, my veins became more prominent (popping out), because of the improved blood flow.

I did the exercises on and off since I started. I went from my beginner routine to the intermediate routine. The exercises involved me in warming up with a hot wrap to increase blood flow, then light stretches for 10sec in each direction, then applying lubrication on a semi-erect penis(70%), and stroking from base to glans(head) with "ok" sign(most famous exercise called "Jelq") and some other similar exercises, like flexing the pc muscle and combining some exercises together. One of the exercises need you to stroke from base to head with "ok" sign and firm grip and stop at the head while applying pressure at head, and flexing pc muscle to pump blood in. I applied a little more pressure than usual on that day despite I had a 2-3 month break and needed to start again very lightly. For the first few weeks I had very MINOR occasional pain (pins and needles in the head area), and some times while urinating.

I stopped exercising immediately, and took a break, the pain was long gone 2 weeks later or so, but I noticed a difference in my erections, they were weaker than before. The corpora spongiosum(bottom muscle/spongy tissue) of my penis stayed soft during erections and my corpora cavernosum stayed hard during erections. Basically my erections got weaker than before, my corpusa spongiosum stays very soft during erections and this has an effect on my corpora cavernosa(side muscles) they are softer than before. I get hard erections when I sit down, because the blood flow/circulation is better while sitting than other positions. If I stand my erection is softer, and cant last long, where as if I sit it is hard. My penis-head doesn't get inflated much, unless I'm close to ejaculation/climax. The spongy tissue/corpus spongiosum gets pumped with blood, but if I touch it its very soft. I also noticed that if I do my penis exercises, my erection gets very hard, but that gives me a temporary 'erection boost', and the real problem is not healed - Soft corpus spongiosum. I have given myself a lot of time to heal, 4 months and 2 weeks, but no changes have been made. I still have a soft corpus spongiosum, and I still get hard erections only while sitting. My erection during sex is good, but still weaker than before...my partner doesn't notice but I notice it, because I ejaculate faster, weaker erections due to corpus spongiosum. I also regenerate my sexual 'power' longer, up to 24 hours, where as before I was capable of having sex more than once a day. My penis in flaccid state is softer than before also. My condition is not psychological at all and I know it, but it does depress me because I have waited over 4 months, and no improvement. I assume I have a 'venous leak' inside my corpus spongiosum, is my assumption correct? Is this treatable naturally? I'm really disappointed, and stressed, I really want it to heal, and I am hoping for the best. I think I provided all details..

Oh, I'm 19 and I also have a natural downward curve, it is not a Peyronies disease, because I had my natural curve since birth. I can't really say precisely how severe the curve is, but if a straight line is 180 degrees, then my penis would be curved half way down the shaft downwards at about 15-25 degrees.)
 inguy3 - Sun May 03, 2009 7:20 am

I have the same exact problem described above. I've contacted a few doctors but haven't been able to sort resolve it. I might have overmasturbated(how do you define this?) in my early 20's probably 6-7 times a week, not more. And from 25-27(my age right now), I've masturbated about 5 times a week. I've had this problem since august. Took generic lexapro and clonazepam for anxiety in late april, early may 2008 but stopped after taking it for 3 weeks. Is this a problem of leaking veins in the penis, erectile dysfunction, a more serious issue?
 joe29 - Sun May 17, 2009 2:12 pm

I have the same condition, soft glans and corpus spongiosum, and significantly reduced occurrence of spontaneous erections. From very similar exercise as max018.

I have been to a urologist specialist in Hamburg, Germany. I believe he is one of the foremost experts in the world with regards to sexual medicine, and impotence. What he said was that there is no surgery that is highly probable to fix this condition. He also said that it is still not known exactly how the blood flow out of the corpus spongiosum is restricted. He believed that the condition is an issue with the locking mechanism (which is not known) that keeps the blood in the corpus spongiosum, while the flow into it is likely normal. What he proposed was some type of "vein litigation" on returning veins. This will reduce the outflow of blood. He said the operation had only a 30% success rate, as for most patients the veins would grow back, within 2-3 years. However the operation he considered very easy and with minimal risks.

I'm sorry not to bring better news, but that's the best I have found out. It would be interesting if you could discuss this with your urologist and report back on the response. But I do advice to contact the very very best on impotence, as this condition is not a very normal one, or easy to fix.

For me, I will request for this procedure very soon. Hopefully at least it will last for some years, and that it's possible to repeat it. But this can get costly.. It's really a hard decision to tell someone to cut your penis, but I guess just to litigate some veins is some of the simplest things they ever do on this part.
 joe29 - Tue May 19, 2009 7:00 am

I have the same condition, soft glans and corpus spongiosum, and significantly reduced occurrence of spontaneous erections. From very similar exercise as max018.

I have been to a urologist specialist in Hamburg, Germany. I believe he is one of the foremost experts in the world with regards to sexual medicine, and impotence. What he said was that there is no surgery that is highly probable to fix this condition. He also said that it is still not known exactly how the blood flow out of the corpus spongiosum is restricted. He believed that the condition is an issue with the locking mechanism (which is not known) that keeps the blood in the corpus spongiosum, while the flow into it is likely normal. What he proposed was some type of "vein litigation" on returning veins. This will reduce the outflow of blood. He said the operation had only a 30% success rate, as for most patients the veins would grow back, within 2-3 years. However the operation he considered very easy and with minimal risks.

I'm sorry not to bring better news, but that's the best I have found out. It would be interesting if you could discuss this with your urologist and report back on the response. But I do advice to contact the very very best on impotence, as this condition is not a very normal one, or easy to fix.

For me, I will request for this procedure very soon. Hopefully at least it will last for some years, and that it's possible to repeat it. But this can get costly.. It's really a hard decision to tell someone to cut your penis, but I guess just to litigate some veins is some of the simplest things they ever do on this part.
 Dr.M.Aroon kamath - Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:05 am

User avatar Hi max018 ,
Generally about most physiological activities (erections and sexual activity included) our body knows best how to perform best!(unless some pathology sets in!).
When one does things not in line with nature (ex: laxative abuse resulting in what is known as a 'cathartic colon' - laxative dependence), one may more often than not, end up with troubles.
Try giving rest to your mind & the organ under discussion for sometime. Concentrate your mind on some other activities, and hopefully you would notice improvement.Good luck!
 gogulik - Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:20 pm

hey any update please?
 Trey91 - Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:52 pm

I have this same exact problems, best wishes to you all, seeing how this thread is pretty old I hope that you all got the proper help for your problem. I however am suffering from this same situation. I suffered it during sex though, while having sex I bent my penis severely, there was no pain there or nothing, but I noticed a day or so after that my corpus spongious concaved inward, the top neck of it. Nothing was there like it disappeared, then I gave it a while and it seems like it kind of came back. After it being numb for weeks I started to get feeling back to it. But lately and every since this happened it's been hard to get erect, and theres no feeling when I masturbate, very little. Now my corpus spongiosum is very weak and when i do get erect it's a very weak one, I don't know if that was what was stopping me from getting any sensation from masturbation because of the blood flow or what. But now my corpus spongiosum is all messed up, at the top it feels like I can almost move it around like it's not attached to the rest of it, and it still isn't fully back.

So now I get no sexual pleasure, in fact I get very disatisfied after sex or after I masturbate. I get very annoyed and frustrated and I find it hard to get motivation to do anything after. My stress level is through the roof, and I'm very scared that I'm going to have to drag on for the rest of my life not being able to get this problem fixed. Now I have no active dopamines or serotonin in my brain because this is the only thing that released them for me. I also find things very hard to do now, and it feels like life is very hard and it feels like I can't make it through the day sometimes. Please help me with some information doc, I've been to 2 urologists and they just mock me saying that it's impossible for the corpus spongiosum to get weak and to take my mind off of it, anything for them not to deal with it. It's horrible and I have restless legs, I can't find any peace of mind or well-being, I can't enjoy anything now and it's hard for me to stay in one place, it's even hard for me to sleep. Not a day goes by that I don't contemplate killing myself over this. And it sounds so sad an embarassing at the same time but it's true. I need help, and I know you can't do much but provide me with information, but I need some type of diagnosis on what's going on, I can tell you that it happened by me bending it, hands down, I bent it right at the end of the corpus spongiosum, and im not embarassed to say that I would do it on purpose while having sex every time I would exit and enter and kind of bend it going in cause my gf liked it and it felt good to me too. So yes it is upsetting that I knowingly did this to myself but I had no clue that I was going to get a numb penis and ED disorder, not in a million years. And the urologist says the penis cannot be bent, but mine did all the time right at the end of the corpus spongiosum, and one day I kept doing it and that's what messed it up. I can tell you that its the corpus spongiosum and nothing else, its in very poor condition, and even when I do maintain an erection, litterally like 30 seconds later it's gone, its very wierd and scary.

Like I said doc, it's at the very top and the bottom where it seems very weak, almost like it's pinched at the bottom, at times it's also very hard for me to pee, and I get these wierd nerve feelings in my penis too when it's not erect like a tingle in a vein or something, I just messed it up doc, very bad, even if my ED was diagnosed I still fear that it will never help me get feeling back. Also when I pee I feel nothing, nothing in my urethra when I pee like it's completely numb, I can feel my bladder peeing it out but i don't feel anything theres no tingle there when peeing or nothing. I know the not getting erection problem is in my corpus, it's not like heart problems or anything, it's been like this every since I pinched it. So now I know to never abuse my penis again, but i just learned my lesson and I can't go back, it's so horrible. I have no enthusiasm or anything of the sort in me, I also get very agitated and stressed, and I can't concentrate or do anything of the sort. like i feel empty almost, I need this back into my life, what's a man supposed to do without masturbation. Please doc I'm sorry for writing so much, but please help me with some sort of information on what could have possibly happened to my penis and if it's surgically curable. Thankyou for your time.
 gogulik - Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:09 am

wow Trey... the exact same thing happened to me word for word. Head a pop sound and this happened, there was no pain. Also, I did jelqing which I think made it worse because I thought it can cure it. Any progress? I know this is an old thread but worth the try

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